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Ryno Caval
House of Praetor
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.06.12 06:05:16 -
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You know what I've got a bright idea rather than totally remove it make it so much more complicated by only allowing squad leaders to warp their squads, that'll teach us to rely on one person to lead a fleet as a "FLEET COMMANDER", delegate that **** down to the lowest level but add this twist, in order for the squad to warp the wing commander has to get the request and send it up to the fleet commander and fleet commander has to give approval through an in game prompt, we can make EVE more like the real annoying functions of real life war than anything any of us want to play. I mean there will still be fleet warps but it will be a long and absurd process. That'll teach us to question a change that no one asked for. |
Ryno Caval
House of Praetor
Fidelas Constans
28
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Posted - 2015.06.12 06:56:35 -
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I dunno about all this I'm just gonna roll with the punches on this one |
Ryno Caval
House of Praetor
Fidelas Constans
28
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Posted - 2015.06.22 12:12:25 -
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OMG SOMETHING IS CHANGING AND WE HAVE TO ADAPT AND OVERCOME
Whatever will we do, how will we go on playing a game that has been evolving since it was released and has spawned it's own community of space nerds who are so against change when it's announced, then in some miraculous way either find a way to exploit the hell out of it or just work around it. Hmmmmm...... I wonder what's next
"stop adding new and interesting dynamics CCP all we want is to not have to use our brains anymore make it so FC's can broadcast target and it cause all the fleet to lock and presses f1 for them"
Get over it and learn to play with the new dynamic.
Solution to all complaints use a cloaky prober ie the Cov Ops Frigs that have basically been used as a throw away ship in almost everything that they do, its cheap, easy to fit, and not too skill intensive. Also be good at it it shouldn't take entirely too long to scan something down if you are decent enough at it.
Oh and what a good way for a newbie to learn to be part of a fleet than to be a warp in dingle berry or better yet if you have a bookmark and you want someone to warp to it IE Probing results, you all do remember you can trade and loot bookmarks right
I mean seriously
-Scan something down - 1-2 min if skills and technique are good
-Save location- 1 sec
-Open people & location submenu -1sec
-Find your location you wish to share -1sec
-Shift click and drag into your cargo -1sec
-Jettison can -1sec
-Tell fleet member designated as warp in to loot can -1 sec (more if you didn't designate warp in or they are not paying attention)
-Tell warp in to to warp selves to BM -based on warp time and system size 10-30+ sec (for largest system in BS fleet comp takes 95 sec)
-Fleet warp to member -based on warp time and system size 10-30+ sec (for largest system in BS fleet comp takes 95 sec)
total time 3 min 6 sec
total time that is added to the regular process maybe 35+ sec and at most 100 sec
35+ whole seconds what ever are we going to do (and mind you 30 sec warp for BS is approx 90 AU give or take a few seconds for acceleration and deceleration)
It even takes talented FC's around this time to get set up in a system anyways or to get a fleet's head out of their asses when they do find something with their prober. This will simply make people pay closer attention to what the FC's say and not be bad.
You all are so terrified of change you didn't even bother to look into how this will really effect anything.
Yes this puts more pressure on the FC to be better at his job and makes them rely on other people.
WH'ers and Miners you can apply the same thing and do the math yourself.
Also Boo Hoo you can't land all the bombers on a perch cloaked together but that's just it you are cloaked and you can get a warp in off of whomever you are bombing and then warp back out just as easily you just have to not be bad.
If you fly a specialized type of ship and you don't know how to use it than learn and quit relying on everyone else to do everything for you.
If you are a good bomber, you have any spacial reasoning skills, and a basic understanding of trajectory and three dimensional triganometry; you can hit moving targets and don't have to rely on the FC to do everything for you. Yes it sucks having to have responsibility in a fleet cause all you F1 monkeys and KM whores only care about padding your killboards which doesn't show anything about your actual skill in EVE as a PVP'er. When someone else has to literally tell you to remember to cycle your guns and has to remind people what their job in the fleet is there is something fundamentally wrong with you claiming to be good at PvP. The person who is good at PvP is the FC and you are just riding his coat tails.
That was my rant some of you will TL:DR it some will read it and agree, some will disagree. I don't care either way just stop bitching so, dam much and learn to adapt to things. |
Ryno Caval
House of Praetor
Fidelas Constans
28
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Posted - 2015.06.22 13:38:05 -
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Delt0r Garsk wrote:You clearly have never shared BMs via jet cans. It can take a whole minute to "cut and paste" even longer. And you have only ONE BM. You need to do that 30 times for a fleet of 30!
And if its taken you 1-2mins to scan someone down, your not going to catch anything where we hunt. You got 30 seconds. Tops. And yea a good dscaner prober can scan someone down in a single probe scan with probes on dscan measured in seconds.
I was basing it off of the majority not the minority and it is super easy to share J-canned BM's it's just a bit of a UI kung-fu but it can be done quickly
I was able to J-can 15 copies of a BM to my fleet in a matter of seconds because I was properly prepared
Also if you are catching someone generally it's not a bad idea to put a tackle on your prober cause sometimes you're not so great PvP'er in fleets are bad and aren't aligned properly or have burned off grid like fail-hards. Yes it will affect people who play with a higher level of accuracy and in WH pvp for sure cause you never not have you dscan window open but, WH is a niche just like people who run Incursions are a niche or mission runners are a niche but a majority of the population of EVE lives in K-space and the sad truth is that when CCP makes changes it is to effect the majority not the minority
So the just ,of what I am saying is that CCP is being kinda racist against WH'ers but I mean WH space is weird and foreign and meh.
You can't please everyone but you can try to please some and I think this is also just another way CCP is trying to make EVE new player friendly.
I'm not at all saying I am happy with this just simply making some suggestions about ways to stop QQ'ing about it cause they've already decided they are doing it regardless of how much people complain.
HTFU
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